DWMagus wrote: ↑
Wed Dec 26, 2018 1:51 pm
Kimny wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 24, 2018 3:01 pm
All that would be perfectly right, if what you said before were indeed the "rules of the place". Those are how you think this place should work. I, for one, would kindly appreciate if you would care to not transmute your
rules into the
Those were never my
rules to begin with. They were the
rules all along. This is also why all
the mods were enforcing it, not just me. There was no 'transmuting' done as you claim. Just because my icon is next to the forum rules doesn't mean I came up with them. I just happened to be the one that (tried to helpfully) put everything together, had it reviewed by Josh and the other mods in the hidden mod area, then having it moved to where it is now. Hell, this is also why when we banned our first user (ThymineC for reference) it was a huge back and forth in the mod section because we weren't going to act without Josh's authority in fear of giving the wrong message to a community that wasn't our own.
Well, if you really want to go down that route, then I insist. A few comments above - which lead to this discussion - you did misrepresent what part of rules of this forums have been about. In specific, here is what you said:
If you're referring to the forums, then yeah. Why? Because the forums here were not created to be about how bad he is or LT is. Much like the walmart.com site doesn't tolerate people who just go on to complain about walmart. That's why the people created walmartsucks.com. it's also why when I was a mod, I redirected people to Kickstarter or to come up with their own community on the same idea -- not just because it isn't what this place is for, but also because those venues are more 'official' than a mostly community-run forums here
I lost count of how many people got pissed off at me for either telling them off, or telling them to take their negativity elsewhere. People even attacked me directly thinking I was one of the elitists that believe Josh could do no wrong. What many didn't realize is that I was a mod to Enforce that ideal
In those comments, you sold your interpretation
of whatever rules you understood were in place as if they were the rules
, and by that I mean the ones by which all mods have guided their actions. That is 100% not true. You yourself has always acted by such an interpretation, no question there (for instance, you once said that "My choice would be to lock every negative thread, but then you get people complaining about 1st amendment and yadda, yadda, yadda"). But that was you
, not the forum rules.
In order to avoid any confusion about what I am talking, let me be clearer: thankfully, most of the time this place has officially welcomed EXTREMELY MUCH more criticism than you represented with your words above and the rather bad Walmart analogy. More than once, other mods, Tal and even Josh himself came public specifically to reassure that yes, people could complain and criticize LT and\or Josh here as much as they wanted provided that they remained polite, civil, non-aggressive. They could, as you call it, bring here "negativity" about the game. Some people, and some mods - you included - had a different view on this, could not handle well the presence of "negativity" and tried (often succeeded) to make it go away. But such a low tolerance with the so called "negativity" has **never** been the official "rule" or policy of this place. That was you
(and some others) and your interpretation
of the rules, an interpretation that, as I said, contradicts what even Josh himself has said publicly more than once.
So, I kindly ask once again. Please, be careful to not make it appear that your
take on people criticizing LT, Josh's choices or related things on these forums have ever been official policy. That
would be simply not true. Thanks.