A kind of Stellaris I think.
http://store.steampowered.com/app/42757 ... Andromeda/
http://www.dawnofandromeda.com/
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Thu May 04, 2017 4:03 pm
#2
Re: Dawn of Andromeda
It looks promising. I'll wait until some game footage becomes available before considering to add it to my wish list.
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Thu May 04, 2017 9:52 pm
#3
Re: Dawn of Andromeda
Looks slick, except...
...real-time.
Real-time.
A 4X game that they decided needed to prevent players from having time to think about strategy by making it... real-time.
"But it's pausable!"
I will fight you.
...real-time.
Real-time.
A 4X game that they decided needed to prevent players from having time to think about strategy by making it... real-time.
"But it's pausable!"
I will fight you.
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Thu May 04, 2017 10:17 pm
#5
Re: Dawn of Andromeda
I prefer a soy-based time substitute
More seriously, what's it supposed to be? Turn-based? Changeable time speed?
(Dunno, I've never played a 4X)
More seriously, what's it supposed to be? Turn-based? Changeable time speed?
(Dunno, I've never played a 4X)
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Fri May 05, 2017 2:39 am
#6
Re: Dawn of Andromeda
Flat repeteadely postulated that you can only have a proper strategy game when its turn based.
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Fri May 05, 2017 11:22 pm
#7
Re: Dawn of Andromeda
"Turn-based" is a little tricky, but close enough.
Mostly, I still aver that there are fundamental psychological differences between:
What I hope comes through in this re-explanation is that I'm not arguing in any way that there's anything inherently bad or wrong about a real-time mechanic. There's not. The only question is whether that mechanic makes your intended gameplay experience more fun or not.
My argument is that if the intended experience is strategic fun, then preventing players from having the unrestricted time necessary to do deep thinking -- as a real-time mechanic does -- is a wrong choice because it undercuts the intended play experience. It encourages and rewards something other than deep thinking.
This is not to say that any game that says it's "strategy" but imposes a real-time mechanic must be a bad game. I'm not saying that. I'm just saying it won't be as much strategic fun as it could be, and that's a shame.
I wish the best to Dawn of Andromeda's developers, as I do anyone who works to bring a game into the world.
Mostly, I still aver that there are fundamental psychological differences between:
- quick thinking (tactics / action)
- detailed thinking (operations / logistics)
- deep thinking (strategy / planning)
- holistic thinking (grand strategy / vision)
What I hope comes through in this re-explanation is that I'm not arguing in any way that there's anything inherently bad or wrong about a real-time mechanic. There's not. The only question is whether that mechanic makes your intended gameplay experience more fun or not.
My argument is that if the intended experience is strategic fun, then preventing players from having the unrestricted time necessary to do deep thinking -- as a real-time mechanic does -- is a wrong choice because it undercuts the intended play experience. It encourages and rewards something other than deep thinking.
This is not to say that any game that says it's "strategy" but imposes a real-time mechanic must be a bad game. I'm not saying that. I'm just saying it won't be as much strategic fun as it could be, and that's a shame.
I wish the best to Dawn of Andromeda's developers, as I do anyone who works to bring a game into the world.
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Sun May 07, 2017 1:49 am
#8
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4X
But for the game: It looks interesting and the visuals are nice. But the reviews speak for themselves I think. I'll wait till they put some more work into it.
Re: Dawn of Andromeda
You sure you never did?Dinosawer wrote: (Dunno, I've never played a 4X)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4X
But for the game: It looks interesting and the visuals are nice. But the reviews speak for themselves I think. I'll wait till they put some more work into it.
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Mon May 08, 2017 3:20 am
#9
Re: Dawn of Andromeda
its a solid foundation.
it has a research system thats pretty linear (thing, thing +1, thing +2), ship design, station design, a basic diplomacy system which is about as pointless as it is in MoO2 (trade tech, monies, planets) but has a few niceties i dont remember from other games (agreements not to settle in each others space for example). it also has trading of strategic resources using freighters you have to build and send between planets, which is nice.
all in all its "okay", but in its current state it wont become a "ohmygod i love to play this all the time" game
it has a research system thats pretty linear (thing, thing +1, thing +2), ship design, station design, a basic diplomacy system which is about as pointless as it is in MoO2 (trade tech, monies, planets) but has a few niceties i dont remember from other games (agreements not to settle in each others space for example). it also has trading of strategic resources using freighters you have to build and send between planets, which is nice.
all in all its "okay", but in its current state it wont become a "ohmygod i love to play this all the time" game
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Mon May 08, 2017 3:21 am
#10
Given the current humble monthly that will probably change soonish, though
Re: Dawn of Andromeda
Yes, I am.JanB1 wrote:You sure you never did?Dinosawer wrote: (Dunno, I've never played a 4X)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4X
Given the current humble monthly that will probably change soonish, though
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Tue May 09, 2017 12:23 am
#11
Re: Dawn of Andromeda
Good to hear. You're really missing out on something here.Dinosawer wrote:Yes, I am.JanB1 wrote:You sure you never did?Dinosawer wrote: (Dunno, I've never played a 4X)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4X
Given the current humble monthly that will probably change soonish, though
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