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Re: Imaginary Alphabets

#61
davdav wrote: In 2 or 3 years, immediate translation in google glass ?
Now write down a sentence in QR code
Without looking things up or using a ruler or a mask to fill in "letters".
davdav wrote: And an alphabet readable by only 1/(infinite) people of the universe is not so useful.
And QR code would change that?

Why encode an already working alphabet behind another layer of rules which have nothing to do with linguistics?
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Re: Imaginary Alphabets

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Cornflakes_91 wrote:
davdav wrote: In 2 or 3 years, immediate translation in google glass ?
Now write down a sentence in QR code
Without looking things up or using a ruler or a mask to fill in "letters".
davdav wrote: And an alphabet readable by only 1/(infinite) people of the universe is not so useful.
And QR code would change that?

Why encode an already working alphabet behind another layer of rules which have nothing to do with linguistics?
I don't want QR code in LT or as a future of our written language, it's far too ugly. It was just an example of existing and perhaps futurist written language that don't respect "standard" shapes.
It's a natural evolution to adapt our usage : computers that communicates with computers, and (modified) human as a end point.

What will be the usage in year 3000? I really think hand written will disapear, people will not "write down a sentence" any more.

"Why encode an already working alphabet behind another layer of rules which have nothing to do with linguistics?"
Why QR codes ?
Why ASCII , hexadecimal or binary ?
Why .epub, .txt, .doc ?
Why Braille ?
...
It's not linguistic, it's adaptation to usages.
An ebook is not any more stored as an alphabet but as a computer file format. It's just displayed to the end user as an alphabet.
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Re: Imaginary Alphabets

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Cha0zz wrote:
davdav wrote: An ebook is not any more stored as an alphabet but as a computer file format. It's just displayed to the end user as an alphabet.
it's stored as 1's and 0's , but I don't see how this would be relevant, if anything it's the alphabet that's more complex/advanced here.
Just examples in reaction to that : "Why encode an already working alphabet behind another layer of rules which have nothing to do with linguistics?"
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Re: Imaginary Alphabets

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davdav wrote:
Cha0zz wrote:
davdav wrote: An ebook is not any more stored as an alphabet but as a computer file format. It's just displayed to the end user as an alphabet.
it's stored as 1's and 0's , but I don't see how this would be relevant, if anything it's the alphabet that's more complex/advanced here.
Just examples in reaction to that : "Why encode an already working alphabet behind another layer of rules which have nothing to do with linguistics?"
Because a computer can't save text directly. You're talking about text meant for direct human use.
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Re: Imaginary Alphabets

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davdav wrote: Just examples in reaction to that : "Why encode an already working alphabet behind another layer of rules which have nothing to do with linguistics?"
those layers have nothing to do with the representation.

but you hide a working language behind another coded representation that you have to decode and THEN read the underlying language.

and that overlaid representation has nothing to do with the actual language.
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DigitalDuck wrote:
Cha0zz wrote:it's stored as 1's and 0's , but I don't see how this would be relevant, if anything it's the alphabet that's more complex/advanced here.
Actually it's stored as electrical states. :mrgreen:
... well yeah obviously (and not correct for hard-drives, they're magnetic), but the 1's and 0's are just representations for the charge :P
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Re: Imaginary Alphabets

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Talvieno wrote:
TheJuggler wrote:Talvieno -- what's this about procedurally generated languages? Do tell.
It's simple stuff, really... I wrote a program that would produce a language from any number of user-input words. It was originally for my own benefit, but I later modified it for Dwarf Fortress... I have another version of my own that's a lot more complex.
Wouldn't you want to distribute the basic algorithm or any of the implementations mentioned? I am REALLY interested in seeing what's it able to do.

Please please please :ghost: .

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Re: Imaginary Alphabets

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Entropy wrote:
Talvieno wrote:
TheJuggler wrote:Talvieno -- what's this about procedurally generated languages? Do tell.
It's simple stuff, really... I wrote a program that would produce a language from any number of user-input words. It was originally for my own benefit, but I later modified it for Dwarf Fortress... I have another version of my own that's a lot more complex.
Wouldn't you want to distribute the basic algorithm or any of the implementations mentioned? I am REALLY interested in seeing what's it able to do.

Please please please :ghost: .

Please!
Sent you a PM. :P I don't mind sharing it. :) Actually, I'm quite flattered at your interest.
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Re: Imaginary Alphabets

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From your post (edited slightly):
N-Joy wrote:
Talvieno wrote:Sent you a PM. :P I don't mind sharing it. :) Actually, I'm quite flattered at your interest.
By any chance, are there screenshots? Sounds very interesting, but i like screenshots too. How the outcome looks like.
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Re: Imaginary Alphabets

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