Re: trading system idea
Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 4:28 am
why would they pay in goats? xD
something like spice might have been able to close the deal...
something like spice might have been able to close the deal...
i mean something of actual use/worth to the other party (doesn't have to be generally accepted), not some goats or virtual whateverCornflakes_91 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2017 4:52 amyou mean a generally accepted exchange good?
like money?
virtual whatevers are useful for me, i can exchange those tokens with everyone for what i want or need.
it breaks down when used as only form of goods exchange in a complex society.
To emphasise on Corn's point: Imagine you went grocery shopping and your list looked like this:Cornflakes_91 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:19 amit breaks down when used as only form of goods exchange in a complex society.
if you have to go through a dozend people to get what you want from what you have at the moment for every single thing you'll probably quit from frustration before the second hour of playing the game
(totally forgot that this tab was open with this started post... oops)
Trading between communities or large entities works a lot better than trading between individuals. The reason for this is that as a community you're much more likely to want, need and have to offer a greater diversity of goods than an individual, thus it can work reasonably. However, with globalisation and further so with LT's universalisation doesn't make sense since all goods are readily available with currency.Damocles wrote: ↑Fri Jun 16, 2017 4:47 amThe only way I can see a trade be relatively easy to conduct - WITHOUT a currency or single agreed on trade item - is when large markets conduct trade and exchange many goods and services in one batch.
This could be for example a "trade caravan" that carries many goods (or skilled workers offering services), wich are not available at the target market.
Here the trade parties will come together an agree on an exchange.
Lets take a primitive forager society as example:
Tribe A knows Tribe B 60 km or two day marches away. They are respecting each other and exchanged some members in the past. (a biological requirement)
Tribe A, is good in fishing (dried fish), hunting bears (furs) and making shoes out of fur.
Tribe B is good in making spearheads, crafting strings and have lots of nut-trees nearby that can be harvested.
The tribes have an agreement to meet each other every second full moon to exchange their goods to bring their products.
Those are the products that can be produced additionally to the local consumption. (surplus production)
Tribe B will use up about 10 bundles of dried fish, 4 fur shoes and 2 bear furs within these two months.
Tribe A will use up 50 spear heads, 10 rolls of strings and 5 bundles of nuts within these two months.
So they agree that Tribe A will bring
10 fish-bundles,
4 shoes and
2 furs,
Tribe B will exchange this with
50 spear heads
10 string
5 nut-bundles
When the caravan arrives, they exchange the goods, sleep one night and take of again.
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We normally call those "banks".Damocles wrote: ↑Fri Jun 16, 2017 4:47 amThe only way I can see a trade be relatively easy to conduct - WITHOUT a currency or single agreed on trade item - is when large markets conduct trade and exchange many goods and services in one batch.
This could be for example a "trade caravan" that carries many goods (or skilled workers offering services), wich are not available at the target market.