Hey all!
I would like to know if Limit Theory will support Ultra Wide (21 by 9) monitors.
Because space is awesome, but space in a 2560 by 1080 resolution is just epic.
Mr_Kort out!
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Sun Apr 03, 2016 2:03 pm
#2
Re: Ultra Wide (21:9) monitor support
I believe so, the game doesn't really need to care about your resolution all that much, and with the level of modding we will have, this will be available within hours of launch if not already in.
<Cuisinart8> apparently without the demon driving him around Silver has the intelligence of a botched lobotomy patient ~ Mar 04 2020
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Sun Apr 03, 2016 2:10 pm
#3
Re: Ultra Wide (21:9) monitor support
Hey Mr_Kort
First of all welcome to the forums
As to your question; I think this thread has all the relevant info for you: http://forums.ltheory.com/viewtopic.php ... resolution
Tl;Dr: Yes it will be possible
First of all welcome to the forums
As to your question; I think this thread has all the relevant info for you: http://forums.ltheory.com/viewtopic.php ... resolution
Tl;Dr: Yes it will be possible
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Sun Apr 03, 2016 2:17 pm
#4
Re: Ultra Wide (21:9) monitor support
Good to hear!
Because some games don't really like the 21:9 ratios, as they are optimized for 16:9 ratios.
Usually resulting in HUD elements not showing correctly, but it seems Josh already has a solution for this.
Because some games don't really like the 21:9 ratios, as they are optimized for 16:9 ratios.
Usually resulting in HUD elements not showing correctly, but it seems Josh already has a solution for this.
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Sun Apr 03, 2016 2:34 pm
#5
Re: Ultra Wide (21:9) monitor support
The HUD is completely customizable, with every element moveable and resizeable separately, so that won't be a problem.
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Mon Apr 04, 2016 11:30 pm
#6
Re: Ultra Wide (21:9) monitor support
Yes indeed, the HUD is fairly similar to a 'responsive layout' website: the elements are all anchored / aligned / justified in ways that make sense at all resolutions (personally I test LT at all types of crazy resolutions, including 960 x 1080 -- LT on the left half of the screen, console on the right half)
As I'm sure you're already aware, you're going to get pretty significant perspective distortions near the sides of the screen, but there's not much anyone can do about that until we stop using the hack of 4D projective space to map the rendered world to our screens
And as someone else mentioned, the HUD widgets can be moved / resized to your heart's content if you don't like the way the default layout looks at that aspect ratio
As I'm sure you're already aware, you're going to get pretty significant perspective distortions near the sides of the screen, but there's not much anyone can do about that until we stop using the hack of 4D projective space to map the rendered world to our screens
And as someone else mentioned, the HUD widgets can be moved / resized to your heart's content if you don't like the way the default layout looks at that aspect ratio
“Whether you think you can, or you think you can't--you're right.” ~ Henry Ford
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Mon Apr 04, 2016 11:33 pm
#7
Re: Ultra Wide (21:9) monitor support
4D projection?
When did you integrate a new dimsion into rendering?
When did you integrate a new dimsion into rendering?
<Cuisinart8> apparently without the demon driving him around Silver has the intelligence of a botched lobotomy patient ~ Mar 04 2020
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Mon Apr 04, 2016 11:45 pm
#8
Yes, just when you thought 3D math was hard, now you realize that when it comes to the low-level rendering, we're actually dealing with 4D
Re: Ultra Wide (21:9) monitor support
Been there since the beginning Believe it or not we use 4x4 matrices in 3D graphics. Reason is, matrices can only express linear operators. Perspective projection (the thing that makes objects look smaller at a distance) is very much a nonlinear operator, which sucks because everything else we do is linear. So some smart person way back in the early days of CG realized that we can add an additional dimension to achieve a 3D perspective projection (nonlinear) with a 4D matrix (linear) plus a teensy little division operation (the 'perspective divide'). Using 4x4 also has the benefit of incorporating a 'translation', so that a normal 4x4 matrix can capture both the orientation and the position of an object, which makes the math a good bit easier, whereas a 3x3 matrix can capture only the orientation (scale / rotation).Silverware wrote:4D projection?
When did you integrate a new dimsion into rendering?
Yes, just when you thought 3D math was hard, now you realize that when it comes to the low-level rendering, we're actually dealing with 4D
“Whether you think you can, or you think you can't--you're right.” ~ Henry Ford
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Tue Apr 05, 2016 12:44 am
#9
Re: Ultra Wide (21:9) monitor support
Now I understand why I have given up on anything lower than Urho3D...
<Cuisinart8> apparently without the demon driving him around Silver has the intelligence of a botched lobotomy patient ~ Mar 04 2020
console.log(`What's all ${this} ${Date.now()}`);
console.log(`What's all ${this} ${Date.now()}`);
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Tue Apr 05, 2016 1:36 am
#10
Re: Ultra Wide (21:9) monitor support
Glancing at the featureset, looks like a solid engine to me! I don't recommend going lowerSilverware wrote:Now I understand why I have given up on anything lower than Urho3D...
“Whether you think you can, or you think you can't--you're right.” ~ Henry Ford
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Tue Apr 05, 2016 2:28 am
#11
Might give you ideas
Re: Ultra Wide (21:9) monitor support
Its fun. Give it a toy when you are done with LT.JoshParnell wrote:Glancing at the featureset, looks like a solid engine to me! I don't recommend going lowerSilverware wrote:Now I understand why I have given up on anything lower than Urho3D...
Might give you ideas
<Cuisinart8> apparently without the demon driving him around Silver has the intelligence of a botched lobotomy patient ~ Mar 04 2020
console.log(`What's all ${this} ${Date.now()}`);
console.log(`What's all ${this} ${Date.now()}`);
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Tue Apr 05, 2016 2:15 pm
#12
Re: Ultra Wide (21:9) monitor support
Wait, this is the Suggestions forum! What the heck are you doing here, Josh?!
Josh is in the Suggestions forum! The end is nigh!
--IronDuke
Josh is in the Suggestions forum! The end is nigh!
--IronDuke
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Tue Apr 05, 2016 3:02 pm
#13
Re: Ultra Wide (21:9) monitor support
So, looking at the latest Steam Hardware Survey results, I see that the 2560x1080 resolution is used by 0.3% of respondents.
That's not to say LT shouldn't support as many resolutions as reasonably possible -- I'm glad (but not surprised) to hear the interface has been designed that way. But at 0.3%, 2560x1080 is fairly elite territory.
Not that my preferred resolution is much more prominent: I am very surprised to see 1920x1200 at only 1.39% of users, versus a whopping 36.33% running at 1920x1080.
What in the world...?
Why are so many Steam gamers -- most of whom, I presume, are PC gamers -- running at a gimped 16:9 console aspect ratio compared to 16:10?
Are 16:9 monitors being sold for pennies compared to 16:10 widescreen monitors? Or are people, for reasons that elude me, actually deliberately choosing to see less of every gameworld than if they ran their 16:10 monitor at a 16:10 aspect ratio?
Informed speculation is welcome!
That's not to say LT shouldn't support as many resolutions as reasonably possible -- I'm glad (but not surprised) to hear the interface has been designed that way. But at 0.3%, 2560x1080 is fairly elite territory.
Not that my preferred resolution is much more prominent: I am very surprised to see 1920x1200 at only 1.39% of users, versus a whopping 36.33% running at 1920x1080.
What in the world...?
Why are so many Steam gamers -- most of whom, I presume, are PC gamers -- running at a gimped 16:9 console aspect ratio compared to 16:10?
Are 16:9 monitors being sold for pennies compared to 16:10 widescreen monitors? Or are people, for reasons that elude me, actually deliberately choosing to see less of every gameworld than if they ran their 16:10 monitor at a 16:10 aspect ratio?
Informed speculation is welcome!
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Tue Apr 05, 2016 3:14 pm
#14
Re: Ultra Wide (21:9) monitor support
16:9 gives a wider screen aspect and is much more commonly found on view devices.
So it has gathered the primary adoption.
honestly i have never seen a 16:10 view device in person. (Actually this is 8:5)
So it has gathered the primary adoption.
honestly i have never seen a 16:10 view device in person. (Actually this is 8:5)
<Cuisinart8> apparently without the demon driving him around Silver has the intelligence of a botched lobotomy patient ~ Mar 04 2020
console.log(`What's all ${this} ${Date.now()}`);
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Tue Apr 05, 2016 3:26 pm
#15
Re: Ultra Wide (21:9) monitor support
My monitor only supports 16:9 screen resolution. It was on sale at the time and I've been enjoying it ever since.