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Re: [Lindsey] Friday, December 15, 2017

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CSE wrote:
Fri Dec 15, 2017 6:55 pm
This is amazing!

Perhaps you can increase diversity by using different symmetries.
You seem to lean on one symmetry plan, which is the usual design for humans (that have one symmetry plan, at least externally ). But some other groups may be interesting as well. For instance in multiple axial symmetry, e.g. Order 3 or more, or even more compled and symmetrical designs (with both axial and planar symmetries).
Using this as one of the primary seed would allow to generate designs that fit to each other with different details.
I learned about symmetry in chemistry/Crystallography , so I put such a link, but I realise it is not self-explainig to undrestand what the options are... http://www.chemtube3d.com/SymHOME.htm;
your designs seem mostly Cs. Clicking on the groups on the left bring example molecules to understand what it means.
I LOVE this idea. It's been in the back of my head for awhile, but you just reminded me how important different axes of symmetry will be.

erf wrote:
Fri Dec 15, 2017 7:01 pm
Pretty cool, especially the last album. I do think the ships still look a bit blocky. Maybe add some curves / splines and make some parts thinner? Also from the pinterest page, i find ships consisting of a single large ( curved ) body, to be the most appealing - not so much with all the things sticking out. That sounded a bit weird :D

Also, texturing, details, etc.

Curves are on their way! Josh is working on texturing, which will allow texture details.

Ashenraynor wrote:
Sat Dec 16, 2017 12:29 am
Great galleries! How many iterations does it currently take to get something fighter-shaped that is gallery worthy? How hard do you think it will be to get ships that look decent on a consistent basis into LT 1.0?
Good question! I took about 100 screenshots a day, and picked from them rather randomly to create the Imgur galleries. I'm pretty confident that these algorithms are consistently cool-looking in output.


Thank you for the kind words, everybody ^^
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Re: [Lindsey] Friday, December 15, 2017

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LindseyReid wrote:
Sat Dec 16, 2017 6:58 am
CSE wrote:
Fri Dec 15, 2017 6:55 pm
This is amazing!

Perhaps you can increase diversity by using different symmetries.
You seem to lean on one symmetry plan, which is the usual design for humans (that have one symmetry plan, at least externally ). But some other groups may be interesting as well. For instance in multiple axial symmetry, e.g. Order 3 or more, or even more compled and symmetrical designs (with both axial and planar symmetries).
Using this as one of the primary seed would allow to generate designs that fit to each other with different details.
I learned about symmetry in chemistry/Crystallography , so I put such a link, but I realise it is not self-explainig to undrestand what the options are... http://www.chemtube3d.com/SymHOME.htm;
your designs seem mostly Cs. Clicking on the groups on the left bring example molecules to understand what it means.
I LOVE this idea. It's been in the back of my head for awhile, but you just reminded me how important different axes of symmetry will be.
just dont forget to think about designs with multiple main hull elements around a symmetry axis. like catamaran-like designs.
because that ties a lot into symmetry axis considerations :V
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Re: [Lindsey] Friday, December 15, 2017

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I’ve gone through my pinterest board of over 4800 (and growing) images for design inspiration for ships and stations, and I’ve recognized some loosely defined “families” of styles. Here’s what I’ve found, it’s definitely not comprehensive, but it might help.

Phallic
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X, H, Y, T, V, A, + shaped wing
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Sandwich
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Catamaran
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Gun
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Crossbow
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Spaceplane
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Spaceboat
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Sword/Spearhead
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Radial
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Trident
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Spherical
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Beads on a string
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Cargo
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Saucer
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USS Enterprise
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Shield/Kite
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Skeletal
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Random huge shapes with greeble
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Crescent
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Bundle of Rods
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Splintered Wood
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Object mimicry
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And of course those general shape families can be combined in nearly arbitrary ways, and then there’s multiple symmetries, asymmetry, and so on.
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If you're trying to fill the multiverse, and you're not willing to consider the entire creative output of humanity as a starting point, you're wasting your time.
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Re: [Lindsey] Friday, December 15, 2017

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Distant wrote:
Fri Dec 15, 2017 9:54 pm
Very cool. Nothing wrong with a short and productive week :) Hope you're feeling better (sounds like you're over the cold to me!).

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Just pick the best ones. :D Or the ones you feel like are the best ones.
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Re: [Lindsey] Friday, December 15, 2017

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Great work Lindsey! It looks like you're making pretty rapid progress, and I'm glad to hear that you're feeling better! Hyperion's megapost/Pinterest is a great resource, and if the LT1.0 algorithms can procedurally generate any of those ships that would be incredible. As perhaps more of a near-term goal, I think working to see if your algorithms can generate all or most of EVE Online's Tech 1 frigates (link: https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Frigates) would be great for the "tamer" algorithm since they mostly have one plane of symmetry and were designed to not look completely alien.

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