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Postby Dinosawer » Tue May 24, 2016 4:06 pm

Building off an IRC convo.
TLDR: Tal curently spends 2 to 3 hours every update just putting our turns into his spreadsheet.
We had the idea that this could be mostly automated IF we all format our posts properly and consistently.
Don't start grumbling at me for that, Tal spends HOURS on this, the least we can do is spend 5 minutes a week to make his work lighter. :P
So, idea for formatting:

((OOC)) (ignored for actions)
internal dialogue (ignored for actions)
"Conversation" (ignored for actions)
whatever you want (ignored for actions)
"Command"
Action (1 per line)
Next action (important note about it the GM has to see)
Next next action

If condition:
-then do stuff
else if other condition:
-action
-if yet another condition:
--action


When/while condition:
-do stuff
-do more stuff


Including the name of your weapon in your attack action would be very helpful
As would including clear keywords:
if for conditions
when or while for things that could happen at any point
else/otherwise/if not for else conditions
shoot/fire/attack/slash/... for attacks
take/switch/drop/pick up for taking and switching gear
get in+ship/get out+ship for dismounting and getting back in
reload for reloading (duh)
etc.

Also, I strongly prefer
Do A
and B

over
Do A and do B
I can make it split on "and" (and probably will) but and is not always used for 2 actions, so that's still ambiguous.

Dino's expanded guide to writing a formatted post
Step 1: write your post like you would without formatting. Make sure :
* actions are underlined and
* commands are underlined and between ""
* things that are not actions are not underlined. Formatting should not restrict roleplay. Play all the roles. Everything that isn't underlined is simply ignored by the program.
SPOILER:      Step 1   (SHOW)
"I think I'm fine. Payback, Francis, Andrew, you guys okay?
Francis, THIS IS NOT THE TIME TO NAP.
And yes Cha0zz, we might as well check them out now we're here."
Well, that went worse than expected.
I'll land my ship on its new treads, give my casket a quick lookover to check for damage, drive to the entrance of the canyon and have a peek towards the wrecks there.
When enemies are spotted, I'll get in cover, shoot one with my electrolaser and shoot one with my quantum cannon. If there's a group of them, fire a flechette bomb at them.
If I'm hungry, eat a battery.


Step 2: put a return after each action. An action is a thing you do. shooting, getting out of your ship, scanning, whatever.
Also put a return after each condition. Conditions in my example are "when enemies are spotted", "if there"s a group of them", "if I'm hungry".
SPOILER:      Step 2   (SHOW)
"I think I'm fine. Payback, Francis, Andrew, you guys okay?
Francis, THIS IS NOT THE TIME TO NAP.
And yes Cha0zz, we might as well check them out now we're here."
Well, that went worse than expected.
I'll land my ship on its new treads,
give my casket a quick lookover to check for damage,
drive to the entrance of the canyon
and have a peek towards the wrecks there.
When enemies are spotted,
I'll get in cover,
shoot one with my electrolaser
and shoot one with my quantum cannon.
If there's a group of them,
fire a flechette bomb at them.
If I'm hungry,
eat a battery.


Step 3: Everything that depends on our first condition gets a dash.
SPOILER:      Step 3   (SHOW)
"I think I'm fine. Payback, Francis, Andrew, you guys okay?
Francis, THIS IS NOT THE TIME TO NAP.
And yes Cha0zz, we might as well check them out now we're here."
Well, that went worse than expected.
I'll land my ship on its new treads,
give my casket a quick lookover to check for damage,
drive to the entrance of the canyon
and have a peek towards the wrecks there.
When enemies are spotted,
-I'll get in cover,
-shoot one with my electrolaser
-and shoot one with my quantum cannon.
-If there's a group of them,
-fire a flechette bomb at them.
If I'm hungry,
eat a battery


Step 4: Everything that depends on our second condition also gets a dash. In this case, the second condition depended on the first, so that means two dashes.
SPOILER:      Step 4   (SHOW)
"I think I'm fine. Payback, Francis, Andrew, you guys okay?
Francis, THIS IS NOT THE TIME TO NAP.
And yes Cha0zz, we might as well check them out now we're here."
Well, that went worse than expected.
I'll land my ship on its new treads,
give my casket a quick lookover to check for damage,
drive to the entrance of the canyon
and have a peek towards the wrecks there.
When enemies are spotted,
-I'll get in cover,
-shoot one with my electrolaser
-and shoot one with my quantum cannon.
-If there's a group of them,
--fire a flechette bomb at them.
If I'm hungry,
eat a battery


Step 5: repeat for the next action, etc.
SPOILER:      Step 5   (SHOW)
"I think I'm fine. Payback, Francis, Andrew, you guys okay?
Francis, THIS IS NOT THE TIME TO NAP.
And yes Cha0zz, we might as well check them out now we're here."
Well, that went worse than expected.
I'll land my ship on its new treads,
give my casket a quick lookover to check for damage,
drive to the entrance of the canyon
and have a peek towards the wrecks there.
When enemies are spotted,
-I'll get in cover,
-shoot one with my electrolaser
-and shoot one with my quantum cannon.
-If there's a group of them,
--fire a flechette bomb at them.
If I'm hungry,
-eat a battery


Congratulations, you now have a properly formatted post!


This would turn this:
Spoiler:      SHOW
"Tonon, Doc, Aliss and whoever else is still inside the science vessel, we really could use some back-up here..."

"Kai'isha, it seems the Doctor is...asleep? Eh? Can you give him anti-shock meds from your medkit? He might not be the nicest, but I'm not planning on leaving anyone behind. After that you can patch up people and help them to their ship if needed. And if you think it's safe, maybe you can try to recover Taepilus? Aliss, can you help her with that? You can put his head in one of our cargo pods. "



First, I'll crawl towards exosuitguy and cut of the interesting / weapony parts of his suit with the electron sword and stuff them in my backpack.
Then I'll throw Hema's sword (turned off) back towards the door of the hallway.
Then I crawl back to the objective, and I'll take my crossbow out of my backpack, and if the plasma streamer is kaput from those blasts my electrorifle too.

Then, staying in cover, I'll fire my weapons (explosive bolt for the crossbow, then plasma streamer/plasma rifle, then plasma rifle/electrorifle) at the mimir goons (prefer those threatening friendlies) and hope they don't want to shoot me for risk of hitting whatever this thing is I'm sitting behind.

When the shieldmaiden is arrived and the shield is down:
First, I take the beacon from my hip and enable it with the switch on the bottom, grip the upper and lower halves firmly, and turn in one-half rotation (180 degrees). Then I peel off the chemical strip on one side which I will now be able to get to, and quickly press it against the objective so it welds itself on.
(( :ghost: ))
Then I limp towards the end of the hangar, scoop up the plasma bomb launcher near Aegagrus on the way and jump from the edge to the shieldmaiden, using crossbow+cable reel to get in if needed, and let Squidhead fix my suit and leg. While in a vacuum/lowered pressure, use hands to try and keep air in my suit.


Into this:
Spoiler:      SHOW
"Tonon, Doc, Aliss and whoever else is still inside the science vessel, we really could use some back-up here..."

"Kai'isha, it seems the Doctor is...asleep? Eh? Can you give him anti-shock meds from your medkit? He might not be the nicest, but I'm not planning on leaving anyone behind. After that you can patch up people and help them to their ship if needed. And if you think it's safe, maybe you can try to recover Taepilus?"
"Aliss, can you help her with that? You can put his head in one of our cargo pods. "


First, I'll crawl towards exosuitguy
and cut of the interesting / weapony parts of his suit with the electron sword
and stuff them in my backpack.
Then I'll throw Hema's sword (turned off) back towards the door of the hallway.
Then I crawl back to the objective,
and I'll take my crossbow out of my backpack,
and if the plasma streamer is kaput from those blasts
- take my electrorifle too.


Then, staying in cover, I'll fire my and explosive bolt for the crossbow,
then fire my plasma streamer/plasma rifle,
then fire plasma rifle/electrorifle) at the mimir goons (prefer those threatening friendlies)

and hope they don't want to shoot me for risk of hitting whatever this thing is I'm sitting behind.

When the shieldmaiden is arrived and the shield is down:
-First, I take the beacon from my hip and enable it with the switch on the bottom, grip the upper and lower halves firmly, and turn in one-half rotation (180 degrees). Then I peel off the chemical strip on one side which I will now be able to get to, and quickly press it against the objective so it welds itself on.
(( :ghost: ))
-Then I limp towards the end of the hangar,
-scoop up the plasma bomb launcher near Aegagrus on the way
-and jump from the edge to the shieldmaide (using crossbow+cable reel to get in if needed)
-and let Squidhead fix my suit and leg.

While in a vacuum/lowered pressure,
-use hands to try and keep air in my suit.


If we do that, I think I can write a Python webscraper that at least automates 90% of the work of putting this in a spreadsheet.
Thoughts?
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Re: REKT Turns: The Formatting

Postby Grimm » Tue May 24, 2016 4:49 pm

Fair and legitimate. If Tal can put in three hours into replies there's absolutely no reason why we can't format our replies appropriately to aid the process a little. :P Might break up the spacing of events but that's a small price to pay all in all.
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Re: REKT Turns: The Formatting

Postby A New Challenger » Tue May 24, 2016 4:52 pm

Anybody who is against this is Ludicrous, and should leave. Fite me m8 :squirrel:
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Re: REKT Turns: The Formatting

Postby Talvieno » Tue May 24, 2016 5:08 pm

Grimm wrote:If Tal can put in three hours into replies

A bit more than three, technically... ranges from 8 to 20. The three Dino mentioned is just getting people's posts split into actions.
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Re: REKT Turns: The Formatting

Postby Dinosawer » Tue May 24, 2016 5:11 pm

Yeah. So, would be nice if we can shave 10-25% of that. :)
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Re: REKT Turns: The Formatting

Postby Black--Snow » Tue May 24, 2016 5:12 pm

Tal doesn't sleep. :V
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Re: REKT Turns: The Formatting

Postby BFett » Tue May 24, 2016 5:17 pm

I'm fine with implementing any format that will help Tal get updates out faster. Let's try this new format for mission 3 and see how it goes. If for some reason it becomes too much of a pain for players to read the actions of others then at least we'll know what does and doesn't work.
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Re: REKT Turns: The Formatting

Postby Talvieno » Tue May 24, 2016 5:24 pm

Black--Snow wrote:Tal doesn't sleep. :V

I do, but only once every 300 years.
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Re: REKT Turns: The Formatting

Postby BMRX » Tue May 24, 2016 6:21 pm

A New Challenger wrote:Anybody who is against this is Ludicrous, and should leave. Fite me m8 :squirrel:


I'll leave you bloody on the curb. Don't tell me what to do. :monkey:

EDIT// I copied and pasted the formatting Dino made in the first post into a txt file. Yes I'm that lazy, and yes I don't remember how to do forum formatting. If I can do that, you guys can to.

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Re: REKT Turns: The Formatting

Postby Charley_Deallus » Tue May 24, 2016 7:16 pm

I certainly cannot be against this. I spend plenty of time on IRC, so I can always ask for help if I somehow cannot figure this out. :ghost: Tal works too hard to have to spend even more time just trying to read our sh*t.
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Re: REKT Turns: The Formatting

Postby Talvieno » Tue May 24, 2016 7:18 pm

will say, though, that the whole list + [*] formatting is going to be pretty annoying for people. Would probably be better to stick to simple things like

- action
- action
- action
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Re: REKT Turns: The Formatting

Postby Detritus » Tue May 24, 2016 9:36 pm

Tsk tsk Talvieno. Its supposed to be like this:

- Lights
- Camera
- Action

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Re: REKT Turns: The Formatting

Postby Charley_Deallus » Tue May 24, 2016 9:48 pm

Talvieno wrote:will say, though, that the whole list + [*] formatting is going to be pretty annoying for people. Would probably be better to stick to simple things like

- action
- action
- action


We could use a special program called DinoDoesItAll

You message the post to Dino, who spends 18 hours a day reformatting it to fit his program, which will make Tal's life SUPER easy!

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Re: REKT Turns: The Formatting

Postby Dinosawer » Wed May 25, 2016 12:06 am

I used the list because it makes the ifs nestable in a way a program can read. of course,

If something
- do stuff
- And if something else
-- do more stuffs
-else
--eat pudding

Works too for that. And is easier to parse. :ghost:
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Re: REKT Turns: The Formatting

Postby BFett » Wed May 25, 2016 12:34 am

Dinosawer wrote:I used the list because it makes the ifs nestable in a way a program can read. of course,

If something
- do stuff
- And if something else
-- do more stuffs
-else
--eat pudding

Works too for that. And is easier to parse. :ghost:


I prefer this second format as it helps to make the actions more readable while also maintaining clarity in what actions need to be performed in what order. This is a win win if you ask me.
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