Myers-Briggs Personality Type Survey II

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What is your Myers-Briggs type?

ESTP
2
4%
ESFP
0
No votes
ISTP
0
No votes
ISFP
3
6%
ESTJ
1
2%
ESFJ
0
No votes
ISTJ
5
9%
ISFJ
2
4%
ENTP
4
8%
ENTJ
5
9%
INTP
16
30%
INTJ
4
8%
ENFP
4
8%
ENFJ
0
No votes
INFP
3
6%
INFJ
4
8%
 
Total votes : 53

Re: Myers-Briggs Personality Type Survey II

Postby Flatfingers » Fri Dec 26, 2014 3:25 am

Honestly, I don't put all that much stock in any version of the Myers-Briggs type inventory.

The official version is probably OK (I've never paid the cash to take it). But a lot of the online versions are -- well, let's call them "highly variable in quality."

Rather than accepting at face value whatever one of these surveys says you are, there's an easier and better way: just read the descriptions of the 16 types and decide for yourself which of them seems to be the pattern that's closest to who you think you actually are.

If that aligns with one or more of the survey results, great; if not, then I'd put more emphasis on the written description, bearing in mind that individual human beings are individuals -- you may or may not be a close match with one of the 16 typical patterns of aggregate behavior.

As a starting point, you might find the official Keirsey Temperament Sorter site useful. Check out the short versions of the portraits of the 16 MB types on the right side of the Temperament Overview page. (Even better would be to pick up a copy of Please Understand Me II. I never liked that title, but the book is extraordinary... and I don't say that about more than a handful of books out of the thousands I've read in my life so far.)

Another great resource is the Oddly Developed Types site. Don't be put off by the name; this site is not only clearly and succinctly written, it's also very funny. Be sure to check out the author's cartoons as well, as some of them communicate the real nature of each type and temperament better than a lot of words can.

Interestingly (to me, anyway), both of these -- the Keirsey temperaments and Oddly Developed Types -- were written by INTPs....
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Re: Myers-Briggs Personality Type Survey II

Postby Victor Tombs » Fri Dec 26, 2014 5:19 am

Flatfingers wrote:Honestly, I don't put all that much stock in any version of the Myers-Briggs type inventory.

The official version is probably OK (I've never paid the cash to take it).


I've been seriously considering doing just that, Flat. Having the job done properly. It may lead to further insights concerning the mystery of me. *chuckle*
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Re: Myers-Briggs Personality Type Survey II

Postby DigitalDuck » Fri Dec 26, 2014 3:25 pm

Flatfingers wrote:Honestly, I don't put all that much stock in any version of the Myers-Briggs type inventory.

The official version is probably OK (I've never paid the cash to take it). But a lot of the online versions are -- well, let's call them "highly variable in quality."

Rather than accepting at face value whatever one of these surveys says you are, there's an easier and better way: just read the descriptions of the 16 types and decide for yourself which of them seems to be the pattern that's closest to who you think you actually are.


I take the test, see what it gives me, and then see if I agree with the result. :mrgreen:

Sometimes simply doing the questions can help make you think about who you really are.
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Re: Myers-Briggs Personality Type Survey II

Postby Dinosawer » Fri Dec 26, 2014 3:53 pm

I did that too, and it seemed quite accurate (to the point of "Now I read it here, I indeed do that! Never really noticed that" :lol: )
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Re: Myers-Briggs Personality Type Survey II

Postby Jazehiah » Mon Oct 26, 2015 6:58 pm

Wow, I can't believe I missed this thread!

The thing with Meyers Briggs, is that everyone will occasionally exhibit the traits of other personality types. A classic example of this is that an introvert may feel the need to be around large groups of people from time to time. The test is just to give a sense of the balance between overarching types.

I, for example am an INTJ, but my test showed that I almost fell into the INTP category.
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Re: Myers-Briggs Personality Type Survey II

Postby IronDuke » Mon Oct 26, 2015 9:30 pm

How do we find out which one we are?? :problem:

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Re: Myers-Briggs Personality Type Survey II

Postby Black--Snow » Mon Oct 26, 2015 11:34 pm

IronDuke wrote:How do we find out which one we are?? :problem:

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Google "Myers-Briggs test". It should come up with some good results.
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Re: Myers-Briggs Personality Type Survey II

Postby Flatfingers » Mon Oct 26, 2015 11:56 pm

Jazehiah wrote:The thing with Meyers Briggs, is that everyone will occasionally exhibit the traits of other personality types. A classic example of this is that an introvert may feel the need to be around large groups of people from time to time. The test is just to give a sense of the balance between overarching types.

One of the most common popular objections to the Myers-Briggs types, as well as the Keirsey Temperaments, runs something like this: "I've taken the tests, and read the descriptions, and I don't fit into any one of them."

There are several reasons for this:

1. Personality is more than just character (i.e., a predisposition to particular psychological motivations). It's also about habits, which are learned behaviors. Human nature, generally and individually, is far too complex for any model of personality to describe perfectly. That doesn't mean some aren't demonstrably better than others; it just means no one should put too much stock in what any "personality test" says about them. Even the best systems have some slop.

But to say this another way: behaviors are what you see people do, and are also affected by learned habits; motivations are why people usually prefer certain kinds of behaviors. The types and temperaments assess motivations, not behaviors.

So it's fair to say that different people can express the same behaviors. But it's less accurate to suggest that the MB types (or, more clearly, the four temperaments) are similar to each other, because those are descriptions for visibly different (and probably biochemically driven) patterns of motivational preferences -- the why behind what people do.

2. The sixteen MB types and the four temperaments are patterns generated from analyzing large volumes of self-reported data about human motivations. But you are not a pattern! You're a person -- an actual, individual human being. If your personal style doesn't perfectly match one of the patterns in some psychological model, that doesn't mean there's something wrong with you, nor does it mean you're a special snowflake who is completely unlike anyone else, nor does it mean that you've proven that model to be bogus.

It may be that, for some reason, your learned habits were particularly strong the day you took the test, and they overrode the innate motivations that the test was constructed to measure. Or, if it was one of the many online tests (as opposed to the official Myers-Briggs Type Indicator survey instrument), it might have been a badly-worded piece of junk from someone with more enthusiasm than understanding of the patterns. Or it might mean that your personal way of seeing the world is more complex than what most personality style assessment tools are capable of describing.

3. I actually have a theory of my own that uses the original four temperaments described by David Keirsey, but organizes them a little differently. And I mention this to point out that in my model, which is arranged in four quadrants, people cluster most strongly around one quadrant, but they can also draw somewhat on the two adjacent quadrants. (And they usually consider people in the opposite quadrant to be incomprehensible at best and outright evil at worst.)

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For example, in my model, as shown above, NF Idealists and SJ Guardians are opposites. An SJ Guardian may not like a particular free-spirited SP Artisan, but they'll at least speak the same language about what's important (that being "reality"). And an SJ Guardian (particularly one who prefers Thinking over Feeling) will share an appreciation for organizing the world that NT Rational enjoys.

But put the pattern-typical NF Idealist and SJ Guardian in a room together, and be prepared to have to run back in to peel their hands off of each other's throat. The security-seeking, materialist, hierarchy-favoring Guardian traditionalist and the identity-seeking, abstract, consensus-favoring Idealist radical will only in the rarest cases understand each other, value the other's style, appreciate the other's gifts, or even tolerate the other's very existence. Not all types/temperaments exhibit the traits of other types/temperaments!

(Note: NT Rationals and SP Artisans also have trouble understanding and appreciating each other. But for them it's more like, "What planet are you from?" than the NF/SJ's "You are everything that is wrong with this world and must be destroyed.")

IronDuke wrote:How do we find out which one we are?? :problem:

There are several ways.

1. Find a source for the official Myers-Briggs Type Indicator and pony up the cash to get assessed. Most of these folks actually are professional in helping you make sure your assessment is accurate, since they paid even more cash to get accredited.

2. Take one of the many, many, many online assessments. My advice would be the Keirsey Temperament Sorter from the late David Keirsey's site (now run by his son), http://www.keirsey.com/ . Not only will you get their read on your Myers-Briggs type (and David Keirsey's descriptions of the sixteen patterns of type are outstanding), it'll also explain which of the four temperaments is probably your most natural core motivation.

3. Buy a copy of David Keirsey's book, Please Understand Me II, and just read the descriptions of the patterns to see which one seems to describe you -- the person you know you really are -- the best. A "test" is not necessary; it's just a tool. What matters is recognizing your normal preferred motivational pattern... and you can do that just fine for yourself by simply reading the descriptions and realizing which one (or two if that's how you're wired) sounds most like you. You can always take some of the online tests later if you'd like to see whether they confirm your self-description.

(Note: I don't get any kickbacks from Keirsey.com. :D I've just been studying this personality model stuff for over two decades, and after careful consideration I find that Keirsey's four temperaments are both coherent as theory and highly effective in practice, more than any other generally accessible psychological model I've studied. So I recommend it as a simple, powerful, easily understandable and immediately useful way to understand how people tick.)
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Re: Myers-Briggs Personality Type Survey II

Postby Dinosawer » Tue Oct 27, 2015 1:44 am

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Re: Myers-Briggs Personality Type Survey II

Postby MrPerson » Tue Oct 27, 2015 2:04 am

Dinosawer wrote:I did that too, and it seemed quite accurate (to the point of "Now I read it here, I indeed do that! Never really noticed that" :lol: )


Yup I just went back and re-read the section on my type (ISTJ) and was rather shocked at how close it matched my personality, though it keeps saying that my types usually go at things organized, but my PC's hard drive and school backpack may prove otherwise :lol:

everything else seems spot on though
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Re: Myers-Briggs Personality Type Survey II

Postby DigitalDuck » Tue Oct 27, 2015 5:45 am

Flatfingers wrote:words


I guess I sit right on the "Structure" line in your model, then, considering I'm basically IxTJ. :mrgreen:
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Re: Myers-Briggs Personality Type Survey II

Postby F4wk35 » Tue Oct 27, 2015 10:34 am

Personality test, hurray :lol:

According to the Test Dino posted I'm an ISFJ. The explanation sounds actually quite interesting...
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Re: Myers-Briggs Personality Type Survey II

Postby IronDuke » Tue Oct 27, 2015 1:25 pm

According to 16personalities.com I am an ENTJ, and ENTJs comprise three percent of the population. I always knew I was special... :p
I read the pages describing ENTJs... and... IT NAILED IT. :shock: :oops: It's a little scary. (On the last page it said, "You may have muttered to yourself, 'wow, this is so accurate it's a little creepy.'" :lol: )
However I am pleased to note that the weaknesses the site stated are... weak. I've always known what my problems are and have been rooting them out for a long time. The strengths, on the other hand, are very much there. :mrgreen:
In case anyone's wondering, my temperament is sanguine-choleric. (Oddly, this seems to match perfectly with ENTJ.)

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Re: Myers-Briggs Personality Type Survey II

Postby Cornflakes_91 » Tue Oct 27, 2015 1:32 pm

IronDuke wrote:According to 16personalities.com I am an ENTJ, and ENTJs comprise three percent of the population. I always knew I was special... :p


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Re: Myers-Briggs Personality Type Survey II

Postby IronDuke » Tue Oct 27, 2015 1:39 pm

lol
Maybe 2xlol if I knew what that was from...

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