## Limit Theory Fan Contest - Discussion

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### Re: Limit Theory Fan Contest - Discussion

#1847
OK, I am back in Switzerland.... and no pizza is waiting for me

So here is the solution for the code in LTFC's Information round of June:
First the encrypted message:
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The message was:
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XXXXQXQQKKXKKKXXQQXKXQQQXXQKQKXQQQKKXXXKXQQKQXQKXQKXXKXXQQXKXQQQKXQQQXXKXKQXQKQXKXXXQKXXKXXKXKQXQQKKXQKQXXKXKQXQQQQXQQKKKXXKKKXXXQXKXKQXQKQQKXXXKXQKXQXQQQXXQKKQXKXKQKXXKXKXXXKKKQKKKXXXQXQQQKKXXXKXKKQQXKXKQKXXXQXQQXKXKXKQXQQQKXQQQXXKXKQXQQKKXQKXQXKXKQXQKKKXQQQKXQQKQKXXXXKXXXKXQKQXXQQQXXQKKQXKQXKXXXKX
The symbols were chosen because they looked cool - but there are three of them, thus creating a trinary encoding:
X=0, K=1, Q=2
The symbols are in groups of 5, thus making 243 possibilities, which is close enough to the 256 ASCII positions.
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``````Rank	4	3	2	1	0
Dec.	81	27	9	3	1
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<sot>	0	0	0	0	2	XXXXQ
l	0	2	2	1	1	XQQKK
'	0	1	1	1	0	XKKKX
i	0	2	2	0	1	XQQXK
n	0	2	2	2	0	XQQQX
f	0	2	1	2	1	XQKQK
o	0	2	2	2	1	XQQQK
r	1	0	0	0	1	KXXXK
m	0	2	2	1	2	XQQKQ
a	0	2	1	0	2	XQKXQ
t	1	0	0	1	0	KXXKX
i	0	2	2	0	1	XQQXK
o	0	2	2	2	1	XQQQK
n	0	2	2	2	0	XQQQX
0	1	0	1	2	XKXKQ
e	0	2	1	2	0	XQKQX
s	1	0	0	0	2	KXXXQ
t	1	0	0	1	0	KXXKX
0	1	0	1	2	XKXKQ
l	0	2	2	1	1	XQQKK
e	0	2	1	2	0	XQKQX
0	1	0	1	2	XKXKQ
p	0	2	2	2	2	XQQQQ
l	0	2	2	1	1	XQQKK
u	1	0	0	1	1	KXXKK
s	1	0	0	0	2	KXXXQ
0	1	0	1	2	XKXKQ
g	0	2	1	2	2	XQKQQ
r	1	0	0	0	1	KXXXK
a	0	2	1	0	2	XQKXQ
n	0	2	2	2	0	XQQQX
d	0	2	1	1	2	XQKKQ
0	1	0	1	2	XKXKQ
t	1	0	0	1	0	KXXKX
r	1	0	0	0	1	KXXXK
é	1	1	2	1	1	KKQKK
s	1	0	0	0	2	KXXXQ
o	0	2	2	2	1	XQQQK
r	1	0	0	0	1	KXXXK
,	0	1	1	2	2	XKKQQ
0	1	0	1	2	XKXKQ
s	1	0	0	0	2	KXXXQ
i	0	2	2	0	1	XQQXK
0	1	0	1	2	XKXKQ
o	0	2	2	2	1	XQQQK
n	0	2	2	2	0	XQQQX
0	1	0	1	2	XKXKQ
l	0	2	2	1	1	XQQKK
a	0	2	1	0	2	XQKXQ
0	1	0	1	2	XKXKQ
c	0	2	1	1	1	XQKKK
o	0	2	2	2	1	XQQQK
m	0	2	2	1	2	XQQKQ
p	1	0	0	0	0	KXXXX
r	1	0	0	0	1	KXXXK
e	0	2	1	2	0	XQKQX
n	0	2	2	2	0	XQQQX
d	0	2	1	1	2	XQKKQ
.	0	1	2	0	1	XKQXK
<eot>	0	0	0	1	0	XXXKX
``````
The resulting message is:
<sot>L'information est le plus grand trésor, si on la comprend.<eot>
(<sot> = start of text, <eot> = end of text)

In english, the translation is approximatively:
Information is the greatest treasure, if it is understood.
... obviously, it wasn't

Thanks again to Talv and the judges for their work for LTFC!
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### Re: Limit Theory Fan Contest - Discussion

#1849
Five-trit encoding? I was working with three-trit (27, A–Z + ' ') and four-trit (81, covers most of ASCII). Had a permutator and everything so I could scan it in search of wordlike strings.
Ah well.

Regarding the submission deadline extension: I'm very happy to learn of this. My entry will be either slightly more ambitious or significantly more procrastinated.
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### Re: Limit Theory Fan Contest - Discussion

#1850
0111narwhalz wrote:
Sat Jul 22, 2017 10:04 pm
Five-trit encoding? I was working with three-trit (27, A–Z + ' ') and four-trit (81, covers most of ASCII). Had a permutator and everything so I could scan it in search of wordlike strings.
Ah well.

Regarding the submission deadline extension: I'm very happy to learn of this. My entry will be either slightly more ambitious or significantly more procrastinated.
To be honest, I did not even think of using only 3 "bits" as sufficient to cover the alphabet! - I really thought ASCII "as is" would be the easiest code, in retrospect, this was wrong.
As a french-speaker, I need the accent (é), so 81 chars is not sufficient, though. Is either 3 bits without accents, or 5 bits to cover almost all.

However, I did choose a number of characters in the text leading to 300 "bits", so that it was divisible by 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6. Without the <sot> and <eot> I would have 290 bits, thus making it obvious it was 5-bits per char.
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### Re: Limit Theory Fan Contest - Discussion

#1851
The upload for the latest submission is complete. it is up to you, to decide if it is indeed worthy
There is no peace, only passion
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### Re: Limit Theory Fan Contest - Discussion

#1852
Nicely done, Catsu! It is worthy indeed
I'm trying to give you some competition .

Now let's hope for more entries to enjoy!
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### Re: Limit Theory Fan Contest - Discussion

#1853
Very cool soundtrack, Catsu!

And nice twist you produced there, CSE. Made me grin
Apparently, sometimes stuff might happen.
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### Re: Limit Theory Fan Contest - Discussion

#1854
I finally got around to make something for the LTFC.
To make the song sound "spacey", I tried to simulate that certain C64 sound using modulated square waves.
The flute, accoustic bass guitar and some of the drums are old samples ripped from the old amiga sample disk ST-01.
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### Re: Limit Theory Fan Contest - Discussion

#1855
Zennofska wrote:
Thu Aug 17, 2017 9:03 am
I finally got around to make something for the LTFC.
To make the song sound "spacey", I tried to simulate that certain C64 sound using modulated square waves.
The flute, accoustic bass guitar and some of the drums are old samples ripped from the old amiga sample disk ST-01.
Very nice, zennofska. I lestened before reading the comment and had this 80s retro feeling. As a C64 kid, i understand now why!

Thanks, look forward hearing more from you in the future!
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### Re: Limit Theory Fan Contest - Discussion

#1857
Cornflakes_91 wrote:
Thu Aug 17, 2017 2:51 pm
yeah, sounds cool
i fail to hear the "optimistic" part though
Uh, well, it is quite optimistic compared to the usual stuff I compose.
My sense of mood in music probably became warped after listening to too much Industrial.
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### Re: Limit Theory Fan Contest - Discussion

#1858
CSE wrote:
Sun Aug 13, 2017 1:38 pm
Nicely done, Catsu! It is worthy indeed
I'm trying to give you some competition .
I see, and quite the entry too!
There is no peace, only passion
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### Re: Limit Theory Fan Contest - Discussion

#1859
I'm glad things are starting to happen here. I was a bit worried there for a while. In the meantime, though, I'm short another judge and I'm having to find a third one (yes, again).
Have a question? Send me a PM! || People talking in IRC over the past two hours:

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### Re: Limit Theory Fan Contest - Discussion

#1860
August is slowly coming to an end...

Just saying - time to get those entries ready and submit! Looking forward...

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