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Re: System Shock - The Remake

Talvieno wrote:
Fri Jul 28, 2017 7:46 am
the title of this thread is a bit misleading. This is definitely not a "remake". :lol: This is someone's attempt to put as much of a mark as they can of their own on an already established franchise. I'm sure there will be some people who like it, but there will likely be a lot of people that hate it, too.
When I started this thread, a "remake" is what NightDive had been calling the general idea they'd announced earlier.

It was only when they got into the Kickstarter project that they announced they'd be calling it a "reboot" as a more accurate description of their actual intention, which was to change the design of the original System Shock (because "modern level design principles") but still market it as "System Shock."

I backed it because I'd like to see what they come up with. It's not what I wish they'd done, and I think the clear refusal to explain is wrong. But if this is all we can get (along with System Shock 3), well, they did the work to get the rights; I guess they can do whatever they want with the franchise.

Re: System Shock - The Remake

Holy carp.

I'm just going to post the whole message from Stephen Kick, CEO of NightDive, that he dropped a little while ago to Kickstarter:
In March of 2016, Nightdive Studios released our video of our vision of System Shock Remastered. Done in Unity it was an immediate hit with almost a half million views on YouTube. In June of 2016 we launched a Kickstarter campaign to make the vision into a reality. It was tremendously successful with over 21,000 backers contributing over $1.3 million to the campaign. We put together a development team and began working on the game. But along the way something happened.

Maybe we were too successful. Maybe we lost our focus. The vision began to change. We moved from a Remaster to a completely new game. We shifted engines from Unity to Unreal, a choice that we don’t regret and one that has worked out for us. With the switch we began envisioning doing more, but straying from the core concepts of the original title.

As our concept grew and as our team changed, so did the scope of what we were doing and with that the budget for the game. As the budget grew, we began a long series of conversations with potential publishing partners. The more that we worked on the game, the more that we wanted to do, and the further we got from the original concepts that made System Shock so great.

Ultimately the responsibility for the decisions rests with me. As the CEO and founder of Nightdive Studios, a company that was built on the restoration of the System Shock franchise, I let things get out of control. I can tell you that I did it for all the right reasons, that I was totally committed to making a great game, but it has become clear to me that we took the wrong path, that we turned our backs on the very people who made this possible, our Kickstarter backers.

I have put the team on a hiatus while we reassess our path so that we can return to our vision. We are taking a break, but NOT ending the project. Please accept my personal assurance that we will be back and stronger than ever. System Shock is going to be completed and all of our promises fulfilled.

Stephen Kick

Re: System Shock - The Remake


That must've been a really hard message to write.

At least they saw that they were straying, but I have to wonder about the series of events that led up to them finally realizing that they went so far off track. Could it also have been some internal drama? I feel like there might be a lot going on behind the scenes that we aren't privy to.
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Re: System Shock - The Remake

Maybe someone can persuade them to do a post-mortem when the game they do ship is completed.

On a very side note, at one point I was invited to send a resume to do level design for their System Shock reboot. The temptation was overwhelming; I consider System Shock the greatest game I've ever played. But I felt so conflicted about it -- given my vocal disagreement with altering the original game's core structure -- that I never could bring myself to apply.

Of course there's no reason to think someone like me with no professional credits would have been invited on as a contractor. But to read today that they let their 15 or so contractors go makes me wonder: what if I had helped work on the reboot? I can't even imagine what my thoughts would have been today, had I applied and had I been accepted to help expand the original game's design elements, only to have to stop those efforts....

I really do feel for the whole team. I hope the leads are able to find a good path forward to bringing System Shock back in a form that bridges the interests of original fans and today's gamers.

Re: System Shock - The Remake

Dinosawer wrote:
Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:58 am ... ts/2135868
*cue happy Flatfingers*

Yes, you can imagine how closely I've been following this. :D

The refocused team are still saying things (mostly on their Discord server, apparently) about the combat side of the game: adding/altering weapons, still looking for some way to stick limb dismemberment into the gameplay. This bugs me a bit as, while System Shock certainly featured a lot of "shooting monsters in the face" as its action gameplay, for me what has always set it apart was its emphasis on exploring a complex and unique world. (BioShock kept the "unique" part, at least.)

It's too soon for me to be "concerned." Right now I'm just pleased NightDive are back to the remake concept... even if it took some publisher pulling out of a deal to make this happen.

So we'll see. Set default mood to Cautiously Optimistic!

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