Matthew Cason wrote:Although I'm not likely to back it again, I still wish Elite all the success in the world. IF a game is produced, and IF it is quality, I will still buy it and play the daylights out of it. But I feel, more than simple British reserve (after all, let's not forget, Chris Roberts is British too and he went all out!), there was a degree of arrogance and presumption in how the project was presented, at least that is how I interpreted it anyhow. I got the distinct impression that Braben was expecting all the old Elite fans to catapult him to immediate and overwhelming success much as Project Eternity's backers did. The problem was, and still is, that he didn't (and hasn't) put forward nearly the kind of effort into informing potential backers of what he's going to achieve with Elite: Dangerous that Obsidian did with Project Eternity. His ' updates', outside of yesterday's video, have been laughable and he's taken offense when backers (including myself) have pointed out that more is required to make a viable Kickstarter pitch.
Even if this all comes down to deliberate pacing and he has some kind of extravaganza planned for the final month of funding, it smacks of laziness at best and outright arrogance at worst. I've had my trust and faith in Braben seriously eroded by this and like any other consumer, I intend to make my feelings known with the most effective means of demonstration I have at my disposal. My wallet.
fully agree with that you have said,
the other thing is, the presentation, so we know there is a engine there, and a working of a game, I suspected that from the beginning, BUT, it seems this latest video while pretty good, has been rushed to the masses, which begs the question, why did FD and DB rush to get this on KS so quickly to begin with?
sure the project has time, but if he had waited another month or two, THEN did a KS, had a good pitch video, then the MP video in the first update, then that generation video as a second, then on how MP and SP will work (something I still don't understand how there will be SP when FD are going to host their own servers and allow micro transactions, which in its very nature would suggest a closed server, DRM on the game, to project both online server and people's accounts
sure there is talk of SP, but it seems more and more that this will be a MP only game and balanced for MP
but due to the complete lack of information, apart from the FAQ, and DB own comments confirming that the online servers will allow micro transactions, how will the SP work? unless its a separate? and there will be two games, one for online, then another for offline? but then that would still allow for cheating, hacking, so why then say that FD will allow ingame money to be bought with real money, if they wanting to make a profit to keep the servers up, sure they might be third party sites, but if you allow offline play as well, then no one will use FD servers or buying of ingame money right? so they would have to protect their investment in some way, so this does sound more and more it will be a MP closed servers ggame
this isn't the kind of Elite I really want to play
this is one apsect that concerns me, on top of the lack of information about the game in general and how badly its been handled, I think DB is arrogant, and not treating backers with the same level as respect as he would will a publisher, so I would agree with Matthew Cason, he must have seen the PE champaign, and that backers fell over themselves to make the game possible, along with WL2, DFA and others, he must have said to himself, my name alone will make backers flock to me, I can ask for any amount and the game will be funded in a heart beat
but it hasn't, not only is the figure the highest asked for on a KS project, (remembering that the pound is stronger against the dollar) 1.2 million is a lot when in pounds what OE asked for is £650 roughly, so ED is pretty much twice that, and I think the high figure isn't doing the KS any favours either
sure CR wanted that on his own RSI site, so that is possible, but of course he did add the game to KS, so this I think really helped his cause
but back to ED, we all agree that its has been very bad ran, even with the new video posted, its not really done that much, but then again KS is always slow on weekends, so it might pick up a little on monday, but I think unless FD and DB are more forth coming with information, how will SP and MP work? and other factors, the new video will not silence those that are still criticising the project, so unless they do a far better job then they are now, the chances of ED been funded I still think is a hit and miss, what ED really needs are new backers, this is something they aren't really getting, until they do, there is only so many times that existing backers will keep uping their pledges,