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Re: Void Destroyer is here! (Space Sim Kickstarter)

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 5:23 pm
by Talvieno
Paul, just keep in mind that you're talking to a forum consisting almost entirely of loners and explorers - by virtue of Limit Theory's nature. ;) Attitudes here will be slanted heavily in that direction. :P

I for one love combat... but I like exploring too.

Re: Void Destroyer is here! (Space Sim Kickstarter)

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 5:48 pm
by Victor Tombs
Well this lone wolf explorer type is off to his bed, Nathan. Catch you later. :angel:

Re: Void Destroyer is here! (Space Sim Kickstarter)

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 7:31 pm
by chaosavy
The catalyst/AMD issue should be solved (thanks to some trouble shooting/testing help from a KS backer) - uploaded a new installer - same link.

Re: Void Destroyer is here! (Space Sim Kickstarter)

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 8:38 pm
by Silverware
chaosavy wrote:The catalyst/AMD issue should be solved (thanks to some trouble shooting/testing help from a KS backer) - uploaded a new installer - same link.
Could you do a small upgrade package, that just contains new/changed files.
It's just a pain redownloading the same installer over and over. :ghost:

Re: Void Destroyer is here! (Space Sim Kickstarter)

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 8:39 pm
by Talvieno
Probably difficult to keep everything straight, too. :lol: so it'd just be easier to only have a single upload.

(plus, some people are stupid and would download the clearly-marked update thinking it was the full thing)

Re: Void Destroyer is here! (Space Sim Kickstarter)

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 8:50 pm
by Silverware
Talvieno wrote:Probably difficult to keep everything straight, too. :lol: so it'd just be easier to only have a single upload.

(plus, some people are stupid and would download the clearly-marked update thinking it was the full thing)
Too true. :V

Re: Void Destroyer is here! (Space Sim Kickstarter)

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 12:14 am
by Cornflakes_91
Like the more than enough people downloading the LT prototype patch over and over again :roll: >.>

Re: Void Destroyer is here! (Space Sim Kickstarter)

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 8:29 am
by Victor Tombs
I cut out the coding stuff in your latest video, Paul, but the rest of the video was very entertaining. I particularly liked your views on the place of Void Destroyer in the whole scheme of things. :lol:

Once again it's your enthusiasm that shines through. :D

The modified mining ship is awesome. :thumbup:

Re: Void Destroyer is here! (Space Sim Kickstarter)

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 3:58 pm
by Talvieno
It works! :D Very well! And it's a lot of fun, too! While I still don't like the blue, everything else is great. :thumbup:

Re: Void Destroyer is here! (Space Sim Kickstarter)

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 9:32 am
by Talvieno
For comparison... (and please don't be mad, Paul :| )
Image vs
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Re: Void Destroyer is here! (Space Sim Kickstarter)

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 9:34 am
by Victor Tombs
Very nice, Nathan :thumbup:

Re: Void Destroyer is here! (Space Sim Kickstarter)

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 9:35 am
by Cha0zz
You have my vote for a black background tal.

(sorry Paul :? )

Re: Void Destroyer is here! (Space Sim Kickstarter)

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 10:17 am
by chaosavy
Well I prefer the blue... But here's the thing - the game is open to modding, and in this case changing from blue to black/etc - is just changing 6 files.

Tal here's what you do:

Hop here:

C:\Void Destroyer2-KS-Prototype\Media\materials\textures (prototype install directory)

There's files like so: Blue_back6 Blue_front5 - etc

If you put in alternate files with those names (you'd rename the originals first) you'll have any sort of a background you want.

There's also this: http://alexcpeterson.com/spacescape/

A free tool for creating space backgrounds.

Or you could use gimp/photoshop to darken the blue/etc.



Here's the other thing - I have to try new things, its what I live for, making a black space background is not something I'm interested in, but then again there's modding.

Initially the game's art style looked pretty awful - check out this play list: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... m9HVgCa0QR

My artists were mostly against it and skeptical - at that stage rightfully so - but I have to be the optimist.


I don't know what the final product will look like - but my version won't be black - no worries.

Re: Void Destroyer is here! (Space Sim Kickstarter)

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 10:29 am
by Victor Tombs
The problem I have with it, Paul, is it looks like the sort of thing you get with blue screen footage in films. It looks unfinished, as though something is missing.

And it doesn't look like space. If you added bubbles and a few plants it could be an underwater scene. :angel:

Re: Void Destroyer is here! (Space Sim Kickstarter)

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 10:33 am
by Talvieno
I know, the background I made is a placeholder one I threw together in photoshop. I did replace your files, including the one to get rid of the blue sphere. Both of the pictures I posted are ingame screenshots.

The biggest reason I don't like the blue is that it pulls attention away from things that need it - the ships. The bright blue screams, "I'M IMPORTANT! PAY ATTENTION TO ME!" when in actuality, the background is the least important part of the game. It doesn't look like space, it doesn't feel like space, it makes it more difficult to play, and it's not as easy on the eyes. More importantly, perhaps, like Victor said, it looks like placeholder work. Your game is even more beautiful without it.

I would like to respectfully point out that... the blue space? It's not new. Elite II tried a blue background before, too, and it was met with similar criticism. Nobody liked it. :\ The game wasn't quite as well known or successful as a result, and Braben never made that mistake again. That's the last game of his you see blue space in. Image I could be wrong, but as almost all of the criticism I hear about your game is related to the blue background... I just felt that changing it might give you a bigger boost towards a successful Kickstarter. I may not have gone about it the best way, but I've been trying to help. I'm not even playing your game. I'm literally in a situation where I have no bank account and cannot back it or even purchase it after the final release. I don't care whether I get anything out of it. To put it simply, I just really, truly, honestly want to see you succeed. If there's any one thing I could change that I think would help that happen, it'd be the blue.



If you're dead set on the blue, I'll stop pestering you about it. I just really wanted to help you succeed, that's all. :P