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Re: The State of Limit Theory Development, 2017 Edition!

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 1:18 pm
by Grumblesaur
There's also this:
JoshParnell wrote: 3. I could absolutely not afford to hire another developer(s) for any substantial amount of time. I work for LT for the cost of my living, meaning essentially free labor (with, you know, the promise of future riches :ghost:). Developers, on the other hand, are not cheap.
Bankrupting the project by hiring extra software devs won't get us to release.

Re: The State of Limit Theory Development, 2017 Edition!

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 1:29 pm
by Silverware
Grumblesaur wrote:There's also this:
JoshParnell wrote: 3. I could absolutely not afford to hire another developer(s) for any substantial amount of time. I work for LT for the cost of my living, meaning essentially free labor (with, you know, the promise of future riches :ghost:). Developers, on the other hand, are not cheap.
Bankrupting the project by hiring extra software devs won't get us to release.
Luckily some of us would work for free to produce the scripts to do particular things if requested. :ghost:

If Josh really wanted some help, he could put up a forum request.
Give us a set of requirements, and we build the LUA script to do that thing.
We can iterate off of each other, and produce things, and then Josh can just pick them up at his leisure. :3


But I am 100% sure that Josh won't do that, it'd be like admitting defeat, and when you are sure you can kill the beast that is the programming requirements for this project, these is no admitting defeat. :D

Re: The State of Limit Theory Development, 2017 Edition!

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 1:41 pm
by Detritus
Silverware wrote: Luckily some of us would work for free to produce the scripts to do particular things if requested. :ghost:

If Josh really wanted some help, he could put up a forum request.
Give us a set of requirements, and we build the LUA script to do that thing.
We can iterate off of each other, and produce things, and then Josh can just pick them up at his leisure. :3
Goat-LT confirmed!? :o :mrgreen: :ghost:

Re: The State of Limit Theory Development, 2017 Edition!

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 7:28 pm
by Velifax
Great stuff, very fun to read about professional-level programming issues.

Since I missed the KS, this game is still firmly in my "Buy On Release" bucket. Just biding my time with X-Rebirth, Elite Dangerous, and simulation games (Banished, Planetbase, Forest Village(on release)), and of course anything procedural.

Coincidentally, my pet project/hobby at the moment (i.e., for the last twenty years), is also a simulation. Didn't stumble upon component based entities until this year, but I'd never have needed the performance or wanted the complexity anyway :) It's helping me learn Java, though.

Your description of the issues you're facing hints at difficulties I'll find when I attempt LOD simulation. THIS is why I like hearing from Josh.

Don't underestimates your audience's desire for code.

And screenies of course.

Re: The State of Limit Theory Development, 2017 Edition!

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 7:30 pm
by Silverware
Detritus wrote:
Silverware wrote: Luckily some of us would work for free to produce the scripts to do particular things if requested. :ghost:

If Josh really wanted some help, he could put up a forum request.
Give us a set of requirements, and we build the LUA script to do that thing.
We can iterate off of each other, and produce things, and then Josh can just pick them up at his leisure. :3
Goat-LT confirmed!? :o :mrgreen: :ghost:
GOATLIMIT CONFIRMED!

Re: The State of Limit Theory Development, 2017 Edition!

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 7:40 pm
by Talvieno
Velifax wrote: Don't underestimates your audience's desire for code.

And screenies of course.
I've been trying to tell him this for a while. Maybe someday he'll get the idea. :ghost: Welcome to the forums, Velifax! :wave: Hope you stick around.

Re: The State of Limit Theory Development, 2017 Edition!

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 7:41 pm
by Detritus
Silverware wrote:GOATLIMIT CONFIRMED!
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Re: The State of Limit Theory Development, 2017 Edition!

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 6:47 am
by Cornflakes_91
Velifax wrote: component based entities
When googling and reading about that term i found
this
Looks interesting, maybe interesting for someone else as well.

Re: The State of Limit Theory Development, 2017 Edition!

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 10:22 am
by Velifax
Cornflakes_91 wrote:
Velifax wrote: component based entities
When googling and reading about that term i found
this
Looks interesting, maybe interesting for someone else as well.
Well above my ken, I'm afraid. I grasp the absolute basics of complement based systems, communicating and forming bigger entities. But the alternative he advocates completely evades me.

Thanks for the brain exercises!

Re: The State of Limit Theory Development, 2017 Edition!

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 1:38 pm
by Silverware
Velifax wrote:
Cornflakes_91 wrote:
Velifax wrote: component based entities
When googling and reading about that term i found
this
Looks interesting, maybe interesting for someone else as well.
Well above my ken, I'm afraid. I grasp the absolute basics of complement based systems, communicating and forming bigger entities. But the alternative he advocates completely evades me.

Thanks for the brain exercises!
Component based approaches are great, it's what Urho3D is based on.
Especially for games they work like a charm.
Need a thing to put out light? Add the <light> component.
need it to be destructible? Add the <health> component (or whatever you have called it)

Incredible flexibility for Stricter OO languages.
For things like JS, you can do component-like stuff without actual components.
Yay for JS objects. :D

Re: The State of Limit Theory Development, 2017 Edition!

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 4:14 pm
by Flatfingers
For those keeping score at home, Josh has just updated the Kickstarter.

All hands to battle stations! Prepare for incoming! :lol:

Re: The State of Limit Theory Development, 2017 Edition!

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 4:15 pm
by JoshParnell
Been doing component-based entities in LT for as long as I can remember :)

Yeah, with a dynamic language it's pretty awesome how easy it is. Components in LuaJIT are going to be ridiculously easy :geek: OTOH it was a whole lotta template madness to get it to work at maximal performance in C++ (and even then, I think there was still a bit of perf loss).

Re: The State of Limit Theory Development, 2017 Edition!

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 4:19 pm
by Talvieno
Flatfingers wrote:For those keeping score at home, Josh has just updated the Kickstarter.

All hands to battle stations! Prepare for incoming! :lol:
Whoo! :D Yay Josh! Knew he could do it. :D


Edit: Ninja'd by Josh! :o That never happens. That's doubly awesome. :D

Re: The State of Limit Theory Development, 2017 Edition!

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 4:44 pm
by JoshParnell
Talvieno wrote:Whoo! :D Yay Josh! Knew he could do it. :D


Edit: Ninja'd by Josh! :o That never happens. That's doubly awesome. :D
Thanks for the gentle nudges Talvieno ;)

Re: The State of Limit Theory Development, 2017 Edition!

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 4:51 pm
by Miklos
Welcome back Josh, I'm just happy to know you are okay!