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Re: Development Update #21

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Dinosawer wrote:
Cha0zz wrote:For what it's worth, H-drive tech isn't in an alternate Universe but it is partially based on real physics and could be seen as a far future tech.
Well, ...
No, not really, actually. :geek:
Don't get me wrong, I never said that I support it's theoretical possibilities (I don't, they're wrong), I only mean that that was the way ThymineC intended it.
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Re: Development Update #21

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Cornflakes_91 wrote:
Dinosawer wrote:
Cha0zz wrote:For what it's worth, H-drive tech isn't in an alternate Universe but it is partially based on real physics and could be seen as a far future tech.
Well, ...
No, not really, actually. :geek:
we had tons of discussion regarding this, and it was a yes with the caveeat "assume we can manipulate propablility distributions"
In other words, no, because that breaks a slew of fundamental physical laws (conservation of energy, momentum and probability, to name a few)
I was explaining this to thyminec, but then he disappeared. :ghost:
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Re: Development Update #21

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Dinosawer wrote: In other words, no, because that breaks a slew of fundamental physical laws (conservation of energy, momentum and probability, to name a few)
I was explaining this to thyminec, but then he disappeared. :ghost:
why should the H-Drive violate conservation of momentum?

the ship isnt actually moving when using it.


and conservation of energy can as well be fulfilled with the energy needs of the drive ;)

and i dont know about conservation of probability, so i cant tell anything about that
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Re: Development Update #21

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Because of Noether's theorem, conservation of energy and momentum stems from the fact that physical laws are invariant under spacial translation and inversion of time. The h-drive apparently operated by modifying laws of physics in a certain place which breaks that invariance.

Furthermore, "modifying the probability function" makes no quantummechanical sense whatsoever and is just a fancy way of saying "magic". :roll:
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Re: Development Update #21

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Dinosawer wrote:Because of Noether's theorem, conservation of energy and momentum stems from the fact that physical laws are invariant under spacial translation and inversion of time. The h-drive apparently operated by modifying laws of physics in a certain place which breaks that invariance.
wouldnt the theorem actually break down under this conditions?

"as long as you dont change the laws of physics this applies"

and the H-Drive manipulates laws of physics in its influence sphere, so noethers theorem wouldnt apply anymore

or do i have an error in thought here? :think:


also: where does the H-Drive anything different than a spatial translation?
the whole principle of it is that it only does spatial translations.
Dinosawer wrote: Furthermore, "modifying the probability function" makes no quantummechanical sense whatsoever and is just a fancy way of saying "magic". :roll:
cant argue with that :lol:
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Re: Development Update #21

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That's indeed the problem, if the theorem breaks conservation of those things no longer is the case. Which means you could create infinite energy in such a case if you were creative enough. (Which is a very big "nope" in physics)
And "the laws of physics are the same everywhere" is a physical law (by Einstein, to be exact).

It also does a temporal thing, since it doesn't work all the time.
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Dinosawer wrote:That's indeed the problem, if the theorem breaks conservation of those things no longer is the case. Which means you could create infinite energy in such a case if you were creative enough. (Which is a very big "nope" in physics)
And "the laws of physics are the same everywhere" is a physical law (by Einstein, to be exact).

It also does a temporal thing, since it doesn't work all the time.

well, there we are back at magic :lol:


the whole thing was built on the idea that this instantaneous translation is possible.
which is impossible according to our known laws of physics.


so word it differently: its close enough to common knowledge of physics that the all terrain suspension of disbelieve can kick in :P
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Re: Development Update #21

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Cha0zz wrote:
Dinosawer wrote:Sadly that's not how it works with me. I blame my education :lol:
I know, same for me, I also had plenty of discussions with ThymineC about the possibility of his idea.

On another note, I see you're studying Physics and astronomy in Belgium, could it be that you're studying at UGent?
Indeed! (It's the only place they have that I think)
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