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American Election 2020

Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2020 9:47 am
by Zanteogo
Well, looks like America has fully entered the circus show of another election. Funny because it seems like just yesterday we had discussions regarding it here... 4 years flies by.

Not being American it's nice to enjoy the chaos from the outside. Though America being a very powerful nation effects the rest of the world, at least to a limited degree.

Last time it was the Prideful Loud Mouth against the Corrupt Establishment.

This time it's the same Prideful Loud Mouth against the Corrupt Establishment, backed by far left anarchists..

Again, not American, but just like last time it's hard to believe these two people are the "best" that can be put forward. Though the "best" know politics really isn't the true road to influence and power.

Re: American Election 2020

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 6:45 am
by HowSerendipitous
Eh, the UK is no better. The choices last year were pretty awful, and despite getting only 45% of the vote, the current government has a majority of 80 or so.

Blergh :squirrel:

Re: American Election 2020

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2020 10:37 am
by zircher
In the middle-east, President Loud Mouth has managed to accomplish a lot compared to President Drone Strike. While I don't like his personality, I think I prefer him over Vice-President Hair Sniffer. Of course, as a libertarian in Oklahoma, my vote technically means nothing.

Re: American Election 2020

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2020 6:08 pm
by Zanteogo
zircher wrote:
Sun Oct 04, 2020 10:37 am
In the middle-east, President Loud Mouth has managed to accomplish a lot compared to President Drone Strike. While I don't like his personality, I think I prefer him over Vice-President Hair Sniffer. Of course, as a libertarian in Oklahoma, my vote technically means nothing.
If I was American, and had to pick between the two... probably would go with Trump.

Trumps main issue is he doesn't know when to just shut up. In the debate last week instead of maybe letting Biden hang himself on his words he kept interrupting. This forced the moderator to step in and gave Joe time to recover. Joe had a couple crazy old man moments, but probably would have had more if Trump let him.

Re: American Election 2020

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 7:16 pm
by BFett
It was one of the worst debates I've watched thus far, next to possibly one of the ones Trump had with Hillary. Trump wouldn't let Biden speak, Biden was making some outlandish claims such as being the entire democrat party, and overall it was challenging to see what each person stood for. Here's to hoping that the next presidential debate (Oct 22) will not be such a disaster and that the people will be able to see how sharp and logical each candidate is.

In other news, the nominee for the supreme court (Amy Barrett) seems to be far smarter than either man. I sort of wish someone like her was running for president... anyone but a former lawyer.

Re: American Election 2020

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 4:23 pm
by Silverware
BFett wrote:
Thu Oct 15, 2020 7:16 pm
Here's to hoping that the next presidential debate (Oct 22) will not be such a disaster
You've seen the fall of Democracy in America, that happened last election.
Clearly, nothing is going to get better. Only worse.

Re: American Election 2020

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 4:16 pm
by Zanteogo
Silverware wrote:
Fri Oct 16, 2020 4:23 pm
BFett wrote:
Thu Oct 15, 2020 7:16 pm
Here's to hoping that the next presidential debate (Oct 22) will not be such a disaster
You've seen the fall of Democracy in America, that happened last election.
Clearly, nothing is going to get better. Only worse.
The problem is there is little incentive for skilled people to take the job. The people with the most intellect and charisma know that real power exists not in official government.

Look at SpaceX, Google, Amazon and Facebook. They hold way more potential for true power and influence.

One could argue that Elon, Sundar, Jeff and Mark are not only shadow leaders of America, but most of the world.

Re: American Election 2020

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 5:08 pm
by Silverware
yeah, during the middle ages, and right up until the rise of democracies, Money was in the hands of the Powerful.
Not all powerful individuals were good, but not all were bad. And the methods to gain power generally require you to be good to your people, as they are your powerbase.

But then then, as stability increased, and the ability for a random urchin to murder and rob a rich person diminished, we experienced a shift.

Power started coming to the hands of the Rich. Because the rich outnumbered the powerful, there's only one King per country, but hundreds of successful merchants.
And when it comes to gaining money, evil methods work much better than good ones.

Once the Rich outnumbered the Powerful, they were able to shift the system, and now it's the Rich AND Powerful, not the Powerful and Rich.

Leading us to now, where the Jeff's of the world get lucky on a stake, exploit workers for maximum profit, and use that profit to create power for themselves, generally through Media sources.