Relative quality of music over time

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Re: Wednesday, March 8, 2017

Postby Mistycica » Tue Mar 14, 2017 5:29 am

Grumblesaur wrote:
Mistycica wrote:Anything other than Gregorian should be punished harshly.


How should this be treated, then?


You have to ask yourself: does this piece add to the glory of God? Does it contain any blasphemous instruments (that is, everything that isn't a church organ)?

Joke aside, that's a pretty darn fun take on the song :3
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Re: Relative quality of music over time

Postby DigitalDuck » Tue Mar 14, 2017 9:04 am

The relative quality of music over time stays the same. I'll add a disclaimer to point out that the choices in music I produce here are a result of being British and will not necessarily apply to other countries, but I'm sure the same concept applies.

When someone talks about "music in the 50s and 60s", they generally do not mean Jo Stafford - You Belong to Me, Lita Roza - That Doggie In The Window, Cliff Richard & The Shadows - Bachelor Boys, Engelbert Humperdinck - The Last Waltz, or The Crazy World of Arthur Brown - Fire. You might have opinions on those songs, good or bad, but those are generally not what people mean, despite all being number 1 at some point in the 50s and 60s.

Instead, they will refer to any number of Elvis Presley songs, Del Shannon - Runaway, Danny Williams - Moon River, The Tornadoes - Telstar, The Animals - House of the Rising Sun, The Kinks - You Really Got Me, and any number of Beatles hits. It's unlikely that the same person will refer to all of these, but it's much more likely than anything I mentioned in the first paragraph.

Similarly, in fifty years time people will be looking at the music of 2000s. They won't be talking about Hear'Say - The Way To Your Love, Daniel Bedingfield - Never Gonna Leave Your Side, McFly - I'll Be Okay, Kanye West - Stronger, or La Roux - Bulletproof. Again, you might have opinions on those songs, good or bad, but those will generally not be what people mean, despite all being number 1 at some point in the 2000s.

Instead, they will refer to Ronan Keating - Life is a Rollercoaster, Enrique Iglesias - Hero, Eric Prydz - Call On Me, James Blunt - You're Beautiful, and Snow Patrol - Chasing Cars.

The same is true of any era. 90% of everything is shit. When you look back, you only look at the 10% that isn't shit.

And it doesn't just apply to music. Take games, for example. 80s games were so good, right? I mean, you had After Burner, OutRun, Galaga, Elite, Chaos, Chase HQ, Dizzy, Alex Kidd, Space Harrier, Joust, Spy Hunter, Gauntlet, and of course the big three of Mario, Donkey Kong, and Pac-Man.

Nobody mentions Streaker, Grand Prix Tennis, Terminus, Soul of a Robot, Ninja, Lazer Wheel, Omega One, Sarlmoor, Rockford, Voidrunner; and when they talk about Fido, Action Biker, or Weasel Willy it's to say how utterly shit they are.
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Re: Relative quality of music over time

Postby Scytale » Tue Mar 14, 2017 9:40 am

these are words of wisdom
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Re: Relative quality of music over time

Postby Talvieno » Tue Mar 14, 2017 9:42 am

Scytale wrote:these are words of wisdom

I very much agree.
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Re: Relative quality of music over time

Postby Cody » Tue Mar 14, 2017 1:14 pm

When I was a lad, back in the pleistocene, we had to make our own music. The rhythmic stamping of feet was very popular, and it helped keep our feet warm too - there was a lot of ice around back then.
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Re: Relative quality of music over time

Postby Flatfingers » Tue Mar 14, 2017 2:35 pm

Anytime I use the word "indisputable," you are 100% safe in assuming it's intended ironically. As in, "grain of truth but not to be taken seriously because no statement on an obviously subjective subject is off-limits from being disputed."

Yeesh.

I was actually inspired recently to start working on composing my own music. Audio tools have definitely come a long way since I slaved over a hot mixing board!

I'll post them on Soundcloud and drop a link here; that way, anyone can listen to what I consider music -- because I created it -- and then come back here and declare that I'm not permitted to have opinions on what is "good music" because my stuff is crap.
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Re: Relative quality of music over time

Postby Talvieno » Tue Mar 14, 2017 2:46 pm

Best not to forget Poe's law, Flat. :)
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Re: Relative quality of music over time

Postby Flatfingers » Tue Mar 14, 2017 3:04 pm

Talvieno wrote:Best not to forget Poe's law, Flat. :)

Fair enough, but the applicability of Poe's Law increases in direct proportion to the number of the general public reading one's comments.

I expect more from the smart, informed, and indisputably attractive people who frequent this forum.
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Re: Relative quality of music over time

Postby Talvieno » Tue Mar 14, 2017 3:09 pm

Um... :eh: What does "applicability" mean?

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Re: Relative quality of music over time

Postby Flatfingers » Tue Mar 14, 2017 3:19 pm

In this case, the likelihood of people choosing to believe the worst possible interpretation of a comment.

Poe's Law is less applicable in smaller groups of people who've interacted regularly with each other for years.

Usually.
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Re: Relative quality of music over time

Postby Talvieno » Tue Mar 14, 2017 3:27 pm

I can't tell if you missed the joke, or you're pretending that you missed it. :eh: Given that you're rather bright, I'm going to guess the latter. :squirrel:
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Re: Relative quality of music over time

Postby Scytale » Tue Mar 14, 2017 3:55 pm

Talvieno wrote:I can't tell if you missed the joke, or you're pretending that you missed it. :eh: Given that you're rather bright, I'm going to guess the latter. :squirrel:


I missed the joke too can you explain it please
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Re: Relative quality of music over time

Postby Talvieno » Tue Mar 14, 2017 4:18 pm

Flatfingers wrote:I expect more from the smart [...] people who frequent this forum.

Talvieno wrote:Um... :eh: What does "applicability" mean?

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It seems I misjudged the applicability of the joke to this particular audience. :P
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Re: Relative quality of music over time

Postby Scytale » Tue Mar 14, 2017 4:19 pm

Oh yes, that pesky ghost

cheers

for what it's worth, I was under the impression that one wouldn't confuse intelligence with knowing word definitions

but you never can tell with this forum :ghost: :ghost: :ghost: :ghost: :ghost: :ghost: :ghost: :ghost: :ghost: :ghost: :ghost: :ghost: :ghost: :ghost: :ghost: :ghost: :ghost: :ghost: :ghost:
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Re: Relative quality of music over time

Postby Talvieno » Tue Mar 14, 2017 4:24 pm

Someone with intelligence would surely know how to look up the definitions of words they didn't know. :D
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