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Re: Backer Refunds & Pre-Orders -- Your Thoughts?

The facts are, that KS has it's definition for what a dev has to do in order to stay in compliance, and if a dev is in compliance as defined, then all the lawsuits in the world won't change that, regardless of anyones personal feelings. Kickstarter rules do not come before laws of the state nor the...

Re: Backer Refunds & Pre-Orders -- Your Thoughts?

I am in the very solid YES vote. If and I mean IF there is a large amount of demand for refunds. Then it is simply logical to open up preorders to keep the project financially intact. I said I won't purchase in support of your decisions (Ive made my opinions on that) However, I do want to preorder a...

Re: Crowdfunding Win. Kickstarter Campaign Forced to Pay!

When does it become "okay" to enforce the law? A hundred? A thousand? ten thousand dollars? The average does not matter one bit. The backers were ripped off and the massive punitive damages judgement (Which BTW were approved by a court of law not JUST the AG) sends a clear message that the wild west...

Re: Crowdfunding Win. Kickstarter Campaign Forced to Pay!

If a state AG's office decides to come after you, will any court require them to pay the $20,000 you spent on lawyers? The cost of litigiousness is not just direct. It's also in the projects that never get attempted out of concern that some offended soul or politically ambitious AG can destroy your...

Re: Crowdfunding Win. Kickstarter Campaign Forced to Pay!

Well the Washington State Government disagrees with you. As do most governments when real money is involved. This is not "OMFG Josh isn't updating for a month! SUE SUE SUE!!!" Its "Project vanished without offering refunds. Thus an investigation is started to determine if there is fraudulent activit...

Re: Crowdfunding Win. Kickstarter Campaign Forced to Pay!

It had to be a tough first precedent. Crowdfunding has been severely harmed by these fraud campaigns (There was one where the creator outright mocked backers because he had no fear of any justice. It would take a LOT of money to sue him) And the perception that once they have the money. There is zer...

Re: Crowdfunding Win. Kickstarter Campaign Forced to Pay!

It also opens the way to legal attacks on people like Josh who have found that their anticipated delivery dates are... optimistic at best. :cry: This is a double edged sword. Not all crowdfunding can succeed. As much of it is promising stuff that doesn't exist yet. Where do we draw the line? Where ...

Crowdfunding Win. Kickstarter Campaign Forced to Pay!

http://www.atg.wa.gov/news/news-releases/ag-makes-crowdfunded-company-pay-shady-deal "King County Superior Court Commissioner Henry Judson ordered Edward J. Polchlopek III, otherwise known as Ed Nash, and his company, Altius Management, to pay $54,851 as a result of the 2012 “Asylum Playing Cards” K...

Re: Rocket Launches

Which is a disaster for far more than just SpaceX. The station is now almost completely without means to supply it. The HTV from Japan now the sole certified means to bring the cargo. Now there is a very real possibility of it being decrewed. Not to mention this is could add years to the manned drag...

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